I clearly hit a nerve on this piece. So yes, doctors can be sanctimonious, self-aggrandizing and incompetent all at the same time. And yes, medicine is not rocket science. Some of it is very difficult, some is remarkably simple (other than the volume of material). Some of us are quite mediocre. However, many physicians are excellent, well read, well practiced and deserve to be treated with absolute trust and respect.
However, I’m not trying to say that doctors shouldn’t listen to what patients have to say. But I’m saying that we are held to a standard of expertise, and if we’re held to that standard, we ought to be considered experts. If we aren’t, then we should simply offer a menu in every hospital and doctor’s office, and let patients choose the therapy, medication or surgery they think is best; with the caveat that they cannot sue us for errors. If you know best, you get to be accountable.
When someone with an odd or obscure disease comes to me, and has information to tell me about themselves or their child, I listen. I want to know. I’d be foolish not to. The same with difficult complaints, or persistent symptoms so-far undiagnosed. We all should listen. But when someone suggests to me that their idea, however bizarre, however unlikely, deserves my full consideration,and deserves to be refuted by evidence-based studies every time, then I have to respectfully disagree on the basis that I am a physician, and human illness is what I studied and what I understand.
If an engineer suggested something to me as a client that seemed outlandish and bizarre, I might step back and ask. But I wouldn’t presume to know engineering the way he or she did. I think that field of knowledge is far too expansive for me to insinuate myself into it.
Admittedly, we all have a body, whereas not all of us have an engineering project in the works. We do know our bodies, and should insist on the best for them.
But what one reader glibly ridicules as the ‘BS of a huge pool of invaluable experience’ is really quite important. Some diagnoses and prescription practices do become rote, because one recognizes them as routine. But the ability to recognize and treat illness and injury requires a great deal of experience. In my specialty, expertise is defined as requiring something like 50,000 patients or 7 years in practice. That’s a lot of people. And knowing how someone looks when they’re about to have a cardiac arrest, or when a child is suffering from appendicitis, these things don’t come by rote, or by reading double-blinded, placebo controlled studies. They come by touching and talking to people, over and over again.
And if someone would like me to cite studies to everyone before doing anything, rest assured, wait times will really go up and patient happiness will really go down. And most of the very good, very sick people I see won’t understand what those studies mean anyway. Furthermore, studies are mutable and subject to error, misinterpretation and the Hawthorne Effect. Studies are also subject to
industrial manipulation and political bias. If we rely only on ‘studies’ or consensus, and ignore self-evident truth and experience, we won’t practice good medicine. Both are necessary.
So, I maintain that doctors must be kind, and wise, and listen to their patients’ genuine complaints. But doctors must also be wary, and remember that they are held to a high standard by people who generally expect them to give them solid answers without too much waffling. I’m going to have to act like the doctor; confident when I can be, and smart enough to look further when I can’t.
dear edwin, i have never read any article in any journal and felt compelled at tjat moment to sit and respond. you expressed a “truth” i think that sorely needs to be dealt with in the manner you represented. i am an er doc that “retired” from that had burned out and was about to repeat, when i got out and went to after hours urgent care walk-in work. i think we doctors need to take a stand like you say to help end this nonsense we are in now, and in the longrun “they” will “see” that we are… Read more »
Joy E
15 years ago
You should send “I’m the Doctor” to my insurance company. They wouldn’t pay for much needed liquid meds for my 6 week old. They wanted her to take pills instead…and would pay for the pills. I had to argue with them about her age. hehe…I enjoyed your post.
Stuart
15 years ago
“I’m the doctor” strikes a chord with me. My current role is with an ambulance service as manager of education services. My background is education [former education faculty member, research director for large scale, cross national studies, curriculum developer, evaluation chair] not EMS. At times I am tempted to say to my colleagues [paramedics] that “I’m the doctor” [Ph.D] when it comes to directing some educational programs. Since everyone has been to school they all feel they know, and as you say every proposal needs to be refuted with research evidence before it can be rejected because there is evidence… Read more »
animal guy
15 years ago
Amen brother. As you know from my previous reply, I know enough medicine to be dangerous. To MYSELF. As a health care consumer, you telling me you are the boss and know more than I know does not offend me. I might even agree with you. I do want to know why. Because you have seen these symptoms 14 elebn dozen times and treated it the same way regardless of what I read on the web is a perfectly acceptable answer. If I still want to argue, I need facts from respected journals to pique your interest enough to say… Read more »
RR
15 years ago
Any way to get John Heiss’ letter to EMN from the AUG2007 edition?
He really seemed to articulate things well taking the usual rant to a new and very personal and practical level.
Thanks
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dear edwin, i have never read any article in any journal and felt compelled at tjat moment to sit and respond. you expressed a “truth” i think that sorely needs to be dealt with in the manner you represented. i am an er doc that “retired” from that had burned out and was about to repeat, when i got out and went to after hours urgent care walk-in work. i think we doctors need to take a stand like you say to help end this nonsense we are in now, and in the longrun “they” will “see” that we are… Read more »
You should send “I’m the Doctor” to my insurance company. They wouldn’t pay for much needed liquid meds for my 6 week old. They wanted her to take pills instead…and would pay for the pills. I had to argue with them about her age. hehe…I enjoyed your post.
“I’m the doctor” strikes a chord with me. My current role is with an ambulance service as manager of education services. My background is education [former education faculty member, research director for large scale, cross national studies, curriculum developer, evaluation chair] not EMS. At times I am tempted to say to my colleagues [paramedics] that “I’m the doctor” [Ph.D] when it comes to directing some educational programs. Since everyone has been to school they all feel they know, and as you say every proposal needs to be refuted with research evidence before it can be rejected because there is evidence… Read more »
Amen brother. As you know from my previous reply, I know enough medicine to be dangerous. To MYSELF. As a health care consumer, you telling me you are the boss and know more than I know does not offend me. I might even agree with you. I do want to know why. Because you have seen these symptoms 14 elebn dozen times and treated it the same way regardless of what I read on the web is a perfectly acceptable answer. If I still want to argue, I need facts from respected journals to pique your interest enough to say… Read more »
Any way to get John Heiss’ letter to EMN from the AUG2007 edition?
He really seemed to articulate things well taking the usual rant to a new and very personal and practical level.
Thanks