It happens over and over. I call a surgeon about a patient with abdominal pain.
‘Well, what’s the white count?’
CT Scanner; the physical exam of today
‘Normal.’
‘Did you get a CT Scan?’
‘Yes, and it was normal. But they just look uncomfortable.’
‘Sounds like nothing for me to do. Call the hospitalist.’
It happens in other specialties. Cardiologists who aren’t interested in a patient with a normal stress test, pediatricians unimpressed with negative chest x-rays and normal labs. ENT’s unconcerned if the neck CT is clear.
Maybe, just maybe, they’re right! Maybe medicine can be reduced to that place; if the test is negative, the physician is unnecessary. Well, the other physician. The important physician, not the emergency medicine doc. We always have to examine the patient. We, the voice-activated, robotic, perpetual residents for every specialty, actually have to lay our hands on the sick.
I know, I know, medicine is different now. Technology is a great asset. And I can’t expect every physician to come to the ER whenever I call, just to examine someone with ‘normal’ labs, X-rays or CT scans. But what does normal mean?
How many terribly ill patients have I seen with normal white counts? How many sick patients, with ischemic bowel, have had normal CT scans? How many MI patients recently had normal EKG’s and stress tests?
What I’m saying is this; medicine is more than tests! Please, my brothers and sisters, my colleagues of other specialties, don’t surrender all of your education and skill to the test! I try never to call for help; it’s too much trouble. Even family medicine residents balk. ‘What am I going to do?’ Hospitalists hedge; ‘I know they can’t walk, but what can we do in the hospital?’
But please realize, if I call, I really want your help. I probably think there’s a genuine problem. And your help doesn’t consist of informing me what I already know. ‘The test is negative.’ I know that. But the patient is still concerning. Please, act like physicians!
We have made medicine into a series of check-boxes. Enough positive boxes and some other physician might get interested. But humans aren’t like that. Humans fool us; they ignore the boxes. And suddenly, they die without warning.
Do we want to remain a valuable profession? Do we want to continue to treat the sick and be trusted? Do we consider our brains, ears and hands, eyes and even noses to be critical assets in our assessment of the sick?
Or do we just need some scanners and automated phlebotomy machines to evaluate every sick person, and let us know if we’re needed?
I hope not. I like seeing and talking to my patients. Maybe I’m just not bold enough to make every decision by phone, and based on objective data of questionable utility.
I’m behind you 100%, Dr. L! As a hospitalist, I appreciate the opportunity to INTERVIEW and EXAMINE patients when I am consulted. As an ER doc, you cannot be expected to have a complete history and 100% accurate diagnosis for each patient in need while you are triaging and treating a multi-bed unit. It is the DUTY of the consulting physician to do a complete evaluation of the person who has come seeking help. It is the reason I became a physician and I enjoy the heck out of it. Unfortunately, we hospitalists face the same response you do too… Read more »
All this and more: I think we too-easily forget that even the gold-standard tests have finite sensitivity and specificity. Without stacking our clinical impression and physical exam, we’re lost.
Roshan Mathew
13 years ago
Ed, well put. Gretchen, as an ER physician I want to thank you for coming down and laying your hands on the sick to make your own decisions. There is a lot that cannot be conveyed by lab test or language alone, because medicine is a human endeavor and susceptible to human frailties. That is all we ask and as far as myself if you ever get a different feeling or discharge a patient home, here is no ego on my part to bruise and I appreciate you bringing your experience to the ED. The only way we will ever… Read more »
Karen Owens
13 years ago
Dr. Leap and Dr. Mathew,
I worked in the ER at OMC as unit coordinator, and in Cardiology performing stress tests, etc. I have worked with you both personally and have seen your sincerity and compassion for your patients. I appreciate that so much. I know that you are not just writing to be writing Dr. Leap. You mean what you say! Some people in life leave good impressions, and some don’t. Thank you both for the good impressions you have left with me. You both can take care of me or my family anytime! God bless!
Roshan Mathew
13 years ago
Karen, always a pleasure to work with you and thank you for what you do to keep this Ark afloat!
I really enjoyed this post, having found you from the excellent Kevin MD. I am an English primary care doctor who recognises much of what you said to be absolutely accurate.
I have run a workshop this afternoon on this subject, so I thank you for this wisdom.
JD.
Dr. J
13 years ago
I love that; ‘What is the white count?’
It’s the thing lawyers ask about in the malpractice claims about missed appi’s.
Lawyer: Doctor, how often is the white count normal in acute appendicitis?
Defending doctor: Between 10 and 30% of the time?
Lawyer: And you sent this patient home because the white count was normal? Really?
Judge: I hope your Visa has a high limit!
It seems to me that Buick could be the orphan when it will come to collector interest!br /In the U.K., classic Buicks undoubtedly are a bit thin within the ground; this was borne out when i took my ’64 Wildcat on the 100th Anniversary clearly show in Essex.br /After travelling nigh on 200 miles each and every way, which has a 401cid engine, the turn-out was disappointing, to say the least!br /As i’ve often reported, Chevies and Caddies are common; for a thing distinct and original, drive a Buick. Anyhow, now residing back in Scotland, what other American car would… Read more »
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I’m behind you 100%, Dr. L! As a hospitalist, I appreciate the opportunity to INTERVIEW and EXAMINE patients when I am consulted. As an ER doc, you cannot be expected to have a complete history and 100% accurate diagnosis for each patient in need while you are triaging and treating a multi-bed unit. It is the DUTY of the consulting physician to do a complete evaluation of the person who has come seeking help. It is the reason I became a physician and I enjoy the heck out of it. Unfortunately, we hospitalists face the same response you do too… Read more »
Hear, hear!
All this and more: I think we too-easily forget that even the gold-standard tests have finite sensitivity and specificity. Without stacking our clinical impression and physical exam, we’re lost.
Ed, well put. Gretchen, as an ER physician I want to thank you for coming down and laying your hands on the sick to make your own decisions. There is a lot that cannot be conveyed by lab test or language alone, because medicine is a human endeavor and susceptible to human frailties. That is all we ask and as far as myself if you ever get a different feeling or discharge a patient home, here is no ego on my part to bruise and I appreciate you bringing your experience to the ED. The only way we will ever… Read more »
Dr. Leap and Dr. Mathew,
I worked in the ER at OMC as unit coordinator, and in Cardiology performing stress tests, etc. I have worked with you both personally and have seen your sincerity and compassion for your patients. I appreciate that so much. I know that you are not just writing to be writing Dr. Leap. You mean what you say! Some people in life leave good impressions, and some don’t. Thank you both for the good impressions you have left with me. You both can take care of me or my family anytime! God bless!
Karen, always a pleasure to work with you and thank you for what you do to keep this Ark afloat!
I really enjoyed this post, having found you from the excellent Kevin MD. I am an English primary care doctor who recognises much of what you said to be absolutely accurate.
I have run a workshop this afternoon on this subject, so I thank you for this wisdom.
JD.
I love that; ‘What is the white count?’
It’s the thing lawyers ask about in the malpractice claims about missed appi’s.
Lawyer: Doctor, how often is the white count normal in acute appendicitis?
Defending doctor: Between 10 and 30% of the time?
Lawyer: And you sent this patient home because the white count was normal? Really?
Judge: I hope your Visa has a high limit!
First, our individual self must learn peace
The following can be adduced to the case that Medium Research and Gary Jones and the phrase â€Yours Faithfully’ are all part of a scam:
It seems to me that Buick could be the orphan when it will come to collector interest!br /In the U.K., classic Buicks undoubtedly are a bit thin within the ground; this was borne out when i took my ’64 Wildcat on the 100th Anniversary clearly show in Essex.br /After travelling nigh on 200 miles each and every way, which has a 401cid engine, the turn-out was disappointing, to say the least!br /As i’ve often reported, Chevies and Caddies are common; for a thing distinct and original, drive a Buick. Anyhow, now residing back in Scotland, what other American car would… Read more »